Finger Fun!

Can hand coordination exercises really increase cognitive functions? 

In this  episode, Joanna & Sue  discuss a variety of topics ranging from brain health exercises to the importance of strength training and the challenges of parenting. They share personal anecdotes, explore cultural commentary, and delve into their current interests, including history and recommendations for shows and books. The conversation flows naturally, highlighting their chemistry and shared experiences, while also addressing serious issues like Alzheimer's prevention.

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Jojo (01:06)
Hey.

You Forgot (01:07)
Hey, what's up?

Jojo (01:09)
Hey. I was gonna just tell you this and then you hit record, but I was like, I'm gonna get a little bit cuter for the pod today because I always look like just complete trash shit. ⁓ So I tried to put hair, not hairspray, dry shampoo in. It was empty. And then I was like, I'll throw on some mascara. Didn't pack makeup on this trip. So here we are.

You Forgot (01:27)
Uh-huh.

You look cute to me. Because you got your fuck ass bob.

Jojo (01:39)
Thank you, but

got my fuck ass bob back. I was giving Pilgrim and I went to my hair lady and I was like, chop it. Chop it shorter than my chin. That's, anytime your bob is not bobbing, you just gotta make it shorter.

You Forgot (01:55)
What pilgrim? I don't remember you looking like a pilgrim.

Jojo (02:00)
It was giving Pilgrim, you know like the Pilgrim on the oatmeal box? Quaker! It was just giving, it was too long. It was giving Pilgrim. I was like, this is not what I want to be giving.

You Forgot (02:03)
⁓ flipping out a little bit like like.

Hummel.

Did you look like a Hummel? Do remember Hummels? Those little statues all the old ladies had?

Jojo (02:20)
I did look like a Hummel.

I looked like a Hummel. I was like, chop it.

You Forgot (02:27)
I always liked those Hummels. They were such a big collector, like some of the family, but they were like too expensive. So I collected Dear God kids.

Jojo (02:27)
⁓ no.

No, you did not. How have we never talked about this?

You Forgot (02:43)
Maryam,

you remember those? not. They were like, I think they were, I don't know if they were at the mall, like kind of a Hallmark storage type thing. Probably not. I don't think they were like Hallmark brand, but they were called Dear God Kids. Must've got them from like.

Jojo (02:47)
Yes!

Wait, you didn't do this as an adult, correct?

You Forgot (03:01)
Nope, nope, kid. I loved church, dude. I loved it. It was, cause it was like social hour. Yeah, our church was so chill and fun. I love church.

Jojo (03:10)
That's so crazy.

UGH!

You Forgot (03:20)
⁓ so tell everybody where you are right now, by the way.

Jojo (03:24)
my favorite place in the world, Red River, New Mexico. Still kind of a hidden gem, even though I feel like that's all I talk about. people don't come here. It's not fancy. It's like one main road. That's it. We go to the brewery every day. Matt doesn't drink. That's okay. I get my half of a hamburger. I tried to drink a beer yesterday and every time I'm like, why do I order a beer?

I don't like beer. Every time I'm like, today's the day I'm going to like a beer. Never like it. I had like two sips and I was like, why do I do this? I said, Matt, next time I want to order a beer, just tell me no. ⁓ I will never finish it. I take two sips and I'm like gagging. I just don't like it.

You Forgot (04:01)
Really?

Mmm.

Did you ever like any beer? No.

Jojo (04:16)
No, I've

never liked beer, not in my entire life. So I don't know why I keep trying to be a beer girl. I'll never be a beer girl, never. And I always think beer girls are like way cooler than everyone else.

You Forgot (04:29)
Yeah, I don't drink too much anymore just because like, you know, it gets so full and bloaty and stuff. But I love ⁓ a couple of beers at the brewery by our house in Boulder. It's called Avery Brewing and they have a couple that are just, they're so good. And they're like, the one is kind of like fruit forward and you know, it's kind of like tangy. And if some, if some of those breweries always have like a cider or two, those are, do you like those at all?

Jojo (04:58)
Yeah,

I don't love a cider. Every now and then, if I'm in Mexico on a beach, I will drink half of a Mexican beer if it has a lot of lime in it. I won't finish it, but I will enjoy the half that I drink. But I think it's because I've already had a couple of drinks.

You Forgot (05:13)
I love,

yeah, no, yeah, yeah. Beer's on the beach. I like it. And I always have to have beer with ⁓ wings. Like it's the only, it's like I'll never have another drink, even if I'm like a switch off, but while I'm eating the wings and dipping in blue cheese and stuff, it's like the combination of the flavors. It's the hot sauce, the beer, and the blue cheese.

Jojo (05:28)
⁓

I mean, on paper sounds amazing. What kind of beer do you like? I don't know anything about beers. I know that what Matt used to drink, which was an IPA, disgusting. Absolutely nasty.

You Forgot (05:44)
Sounds gross.

That's so good.

No, I can't do it.

No, no IPA is for Suzy. No, I like a like a wheat beer. ⁓ More like like a hefeweizen. And I like it with like a lemon. Yeah. And blue moon I love. Yeah, stuff like that. But yeah, I typically don't even buy them anymore. Like we always have like some like leftover from something. Or if we have wings, I have to get a beer.

Jojo (06:08)
Okay, that's what Deborah likes. She likes a blue moon with an orange.

You Forgot (06:26)
Now I want to.

Jojo (06:26)
will drink

at Tufts. They make this drink, I don't remember what it's called, but it's like a light beer, but it's mostly just lemonade. I'll drink that.

You Forgot (06:37)
My sister, I forgot to ask her about this last time I saw it, but she used to make this drink and they were called LBJs. And it stood for liquor, beer and juice. But the juice was actually, think lemonade. Like, but it was like whiskey and then water and like lemonade concentrate. And they'd make a big old batch of it and chug it.

Jojo (06:47)
Okay.

Matthew, shut up!

Yes,

Matt used to make what he calls a hop, skip and go naked, which is I think vodka, lemonade and beer.

You Forgot (07:17)
⁓ happy birthday to Matt. Tell Matt happy birthday.

Jojo (07:19)
Now I'll drink that because you can't taste the beer. Yesterday's

Matt's birthday, the big four nine. So obviously I'm already like in planning mode about the five because I just like to plan things, not necessarily that he wants to do anything. Let's be clear. He does not. But obviously a trip is in order. Don't you think?

You Forgot (07:41)
That baby face is gonna be 50?

Jojo (07:43)
Yeah, and then three months later, I turned 50. So I feel like we gotta go somewhere.

You Forgot (07:51)
now I gotta start thinking.

fine. All right, what's on the agenda today, girly?

Jojo (07:56)
Yup. Our end.

Well, since it is Matt's birthday, I put an out of office email out. I was like, I'm not working today. Spoiler, I did work because sometimes in the travel biz, you got to work even when you don't want to. But then we're going to go get some pizza at his favorite spot in town and eat it down by the river. And then.

I think we're gonna maybe watch a show he wants to watch and then bed route a little bit and then go to dinner in town. Pretty nice little Wednesday.

You Forgot (08:35)
Okay, cool. I was actually asking about our agenda for the podcast, but. ⁓

but I'm happy to hear about your fun day.

Jojo (08:49)
Here's the thing. I would love to be mysterious and like cool, but I talk too much and I talk about me. So there you go.

You Forgot (08:58)
mysterious is something to like yeah I know I like an open book

Jojo (09:06)
You got it.

You Forgot (09:09)
Okay, found this new thing.

this woman on Instagram, I found there's been two this week.

hand exercises or hand things that you do with your hands that are supposed to ⁓ play a role in brain health.

Jojo (09:33)
I'm already intrigued. Tell me more.

You Forgot (09:34)
have not

It says, have they been studied in clinical trials? No, but science is extrapolated all the time and here's how that works. We know novelty, prediction error, and dual tasking build new brain connections and cognitive reserve. So while no one's published a study on doing rock on with one hand and hang ten with the other, we can still reasonably apply what we know from neuroplasticity research.

motor learning and dual ask studies, brain training through coordination, not just crosswords. And then this is important. ⁓ The fun games are just one tiny piece of the brain health puzzle.

The first one she does is like peace signs and a cross.

And like, can you do like...

Jojo (10:29)
⁓ god. It's really hard. Yeah, but I could-

You Forgot (10:30)
back and forth, right? And then the second

one is like paper against the rock, right? And then you have to like do this.

Jojo (10:42)
I mean, honestly, I could do that, if it's gonna help my brain.

You Forgot (10:47)
And then there's like drawing like a vertical line when the other finger's doing a horizontal.

Jojo (10:52)
Jesus. Nope, can't do that one. This is, I am not coordinated or athletic and I feel like that's, see, I can't do that. That's kind of part of it.

You Forgot (11:05)
There is a fourth one too. See now people are gonna have to like look at the, we're gonna have to put this on YouTube

Yeah, I'll link her. Oh yeah, this is the rock on with the hang 10. And you like you go.

Jojo (11:20)
No. No. Can't do it.

You Forgot (11:23)
Yeah, like, I don't know.

Jojo (11:26)
Maybe I already have Alzheimer's. I can't do that.

You Forgot (11:28)
I know, but then,

and then, so that was that girl. And then I come across another one.

see where do we go here guys and I'm just fascinated by these

This woman.

Drs. Onal Kapoor. If your pinky can move this easily, like when your thumb and your fourth finger are touching, cross the other two, and if you can move your pinky, you're in great shape.

Jojo (12:06)
⁓ wait a second.

You Forgot (12:10)
It's a sign your brain is in great shape. Just seven to 10 seconds a day of this exercise can help protect against Alzheimer's and improve brain plasticity.

Jojo (12:21)
Wait, next time I go see my mom, I'm gonna see if she can do this. You think she can't? Like, why couldn't you move your pinky? I don't get it.

You Forgot (12:25)
⁓ yeah. I don't know.

I don't know.

Jojo (12:33)
Honestly though, Matt can't wiggle his toes, which I always think is so weird.

You Forgot (12:39)
There's, this lady has a whole list of exercises on her Instagram and she has pinky lifts. And then there's like, you put the whole hand flat on a table and then you lift the, only the pinky finger up, hold for a couple seconds and relax and do that like 10 to eight to 10 times a day. And then there's finger tapping,

or tap the pinky against the thumb and then return. And you could just do that. And she's like, listen to music or whatever and just tap to the beat. And it helps coordination and brain hand connection.

Jojo (13:17)
What's this lady's name?

You Forgot (13:20)
Dr. Sonal Kapoor. I'll tag it. Yeah. I can't really see what, like, where she's from. was like reading her bio, I'm like, where is that place? Then there's a pinky stretch and curl. You stretch the pinky away from the other fingers as much as possible, then curl it in to like a little fist. I mean, I don't know what the pinky connection is and stuff though too.

Jojo (13:22)
Okay, I'm have to look her up.

What the hell?

I don't know.

You Forgot (13:49)
Play a simple tune and tap the pinky in rhythm. It's all about the pinky. It engages memory, coordination, and auditory stimulation. These are small, small but powerful. They help maintain independence in daily tasks like buttoning clothes, holding utensils. ⁓

Jojo (13:54)
Okay.

You Forgot (14:12)
So they're like, help with dexterity.

Jojo (14:12)
That makes sense.

Now I'm going to OCD style be tapping my pinkies all the time.

You Forgot (14:20)
I'm gonna be stretching these little fuckers all day. I'm working on their-

Jojo (14:22)
You know how you're

like, I always like set up a little test to see if I have Alzheimer's. Like I'll tell myself a word and be like, can I remember this in three minutes? This is going to be my new test. Yes, man, woman.

You Forgot (14:31)
woman, TV, man, woman, TV. What was

that fucker saying? Man, woman, TV, apple. I don't know, what the hell?

I, yeah, I've thought about doing those and then I just get so like.

it alone.

Jojo (14:50)
But then it gives

me anxiety and I'm like, okay, I gotta stop. Yeah, don't need to know.

You Forgot (14:52)
I don't want to know the results.

So that's just, that's what I've learned about Alzheimer's this week. I really need to learn or look into that more. Like if anyone has done actual any, like I can't imagine that does anything.

Jojo (15:01)
Okay.

mean honestly, you could tell me to jump on one foot for 10 seconds if it'll cure Alzheimer's and I'll do it. I don't need the research.

You Forgot (15:20)
Okay,

my friend, had Ligri this morning and my friend Carmen, I call her my friend now because she's just my friend now. It was the first time we were talking about the podcast, like that I had said I had this. And she said, let me ask you something. What do you think about like diet, exercise, you know, like what really prevents this?

Jojo (15:27)
Obviously.

You Forgot (15:48)
And I just started laughing and I'm like, I told her, go, Joanna says I put all my eggs in the basket, everything. And I go, literally any time we hear a tip or read something that, you know, preventative, we do it. We do it because I believe, you know, it's pretty genetic, right? And we can only do so much.

Jojo (16:05)
We're doing it.

You Forgot (16:17)
stay healthy, eat right, all the things. So, and you know, and my whole, my mom and her brother and sister, you know, it's like, it was pretty prevalent in our family, but you know, when she just asked me that, like, no, I don't believe anything. There's no one thing that's going to prevent it. We just gotta do all the things.

Jojo (16:40)
No, it's not going to be like,

well, I ate a shit ton of broccoli in my 40s and that's why I don't have Alzheimer's, no.

You Forgot (16:48)
Well, that's the thing, I look at my mom, who was so healthy, you know?

Jojo (16:54)
I know.

I do think there is, and probably your mom wasn't like this, my mom was a sugar addict and I, once again, I fully believe sugar can be a major issue with this.

You Forgot (17:06)
My mom had a ⁓ secret stash of candy, chocolate. She always had cookies. ⁓ But she always had a stash like hidden, kind of like hidden from herself even. She would put it in like this top drawer of a dresser and it was like Hershey's minis, like the bars.

Jojo (17:29)
Yes.

You Forgot (17:30)
and then what was the other one she loved? Symphony. Do remember that? I think it was Hershey's, but it was like nuts and toffee and milk chocolate. Yeah, she would always just kind of have, she had chocolate every night.

Jojo (17:47)
mean, respect. I haven't told you this. haven't told you this. Save it for the pod. I have a new obsession. Reese's has come out with a candy bar that's a combination of Reese's and Take Five. And I, every time I see it now, I saw it at Dollar General two days ago. Had to grab one. Like, what is wrong with me? It's so good.

You Forgot (18:10)
The take five always confused me. They put so much in there.

Jojo (18:13)
It's way more than five. I'll tell you that much.

You Forgot (18:17)
It's like caramel nougat, chocolate nut and peanut. Oh, that's what the set of five is.

Jojo (18:20)
Peanut, crispy rice, all the things.

It's all the things.

You Forgot (18:28)
can't believe they still make those. buys them? Well, that's a...

Jojo (18:31)
I do. It was

at Dollar General, fucking Dollar 25, but I bought it.

You Forgot (18:38)
Man, I know the dollar tree is a $1.25 now.

Jojo (18:43)
Yeah, and you know they've remarketed, it's now DG. DG is what the sign says. So you're not like, not a dollar anymore.

You Forgot (18:49)
⁓

Okay, while we're on the preventative thing, I also read this recently. Up to 25 % of women who break a hip after 50 die within a year.

Jojo (19:11)
Jesus!

You Forgot (19:13)
Up to 50 % never walk properly again. They lose their independence, their strength, mobility, and quality of life. That's not fear mongering, that's biology. When you stop lifting, eating protein, stop moving, when your estradiol, is that how you say that? Estradiol? Plummet, and no one replaces it. Your bones turn brittle like glass. Doctors won't tell you this. They'll hand you calcium tablets and send you home. Strength, training, and estradiol, I can't say that word.

Jojo (19:29)
huh.

Esther doll?

I don't know. Don't ask me. Maybe.

You Forgot (19:43)
That's a dial dial. It's

the estrogen people. It's just the estrogen that we lose. That saves lives. Weak bones don't. This is from some Davey Meyer fitness. But if that stats for real, I mean, it

Jojo (20:00)
And it could be

like causation or correlation, like you're breaking hips because you're older and so you're probably you might die anyways. You know, friend of the pod Cam says she will die with her estrogen patch on, like bury her with the estrogen patch.

You Forgot (20:15)
Yeah, well, I gotta go see Cam because, you know, last year they did not give me estrogen. She was like, you have too much or whatever. And I'm like, well, it's plummeted this year because I can tell. I'm noticing things that like, are like shit. Like I'm not acting like myself in like weird ways, you know, like. ⁓

Jojo (20:40)
Yeah, it can't hurt

to go get like a full panel. Just test it. I have to do that next week because I'm going to go see Kim at the end of the month. But right now, I think my estrogen is fine because I'm still fucking having periods every month, even though I have IUD. Don't get me started. But she put me on progesterone.

You Forgot (20:59)
Yeah, well need to be on something extra because I'm ready to tap out.

Jojo (21:07)
I sent you

that picture this morning from the Today Show, like perimenopausal syndromes. I was like, yeah, no shit. Bloating, anxiety, ⁓ weight gain, irregular periods. I was like, check, check, check and check.

You Forgot (21:21)
I am so sick of it.

Jojo (21:24)
Speaking of bone loss though, you influenced me. I ended up getting a vibration plate. I haven't opened it yet, but you say you love it. ⁓ Deborah said it's good for bone density. So here we are.

You Forgot (21:40)
Yeah, I'm not sure what it's good for. I don't know. I like it though.

Jojo (21:45)
Paige De Sorba says it helps her poop, so I'll take anything to help me with that.

You Forgot (21:52)
Yeah, it like shakes it out of you. I have not noticed that though, honestly.

but

Jojo (22:01)
If it'll

help with maybe some of the bloating, I mean, people say it helps with lymphatic drainage, just, it can't hurt, right? It's one of those things, put it in your basket, can't hurt.

You Forgot (22:12)
my god, your husband text me.

Jojo (22:15)
He just texted you right now? Oh, God.

You Forgot (22:17)
No, earlier, it's called

a hop, skip and go naked.

Jojo (22:22)
He can't, he can't not be involved. He can't not be involved. Like get your own podcast, man.

You Forgot (22:29)
Fuck.

Jojo (22:30)
You can't make this shit up. He's listening. We're in like 400 square feet. He wants to be part of the pod so bad.

You Forgot (22:32)
Is he still in there?

anytime you want.

Jojo (22:42)
No, don't say that. Don't say that.

You Forgot (22:44)
No, it's true. can't, you know, I just sent Anthony this, ⁓ this other report earlier and now it's not coming up, but it was ⁓ this girl that put her parents on a strength training regime because regimen regime. Because ⁓ she doesn't want them to be like old useless grandparents.

Jojo (23:04)
regime.

You know, honestly, it's smart. We were just saying the other day, we need to start like either lifting things or maybe just doing pushups during a commercial break. Like I need to be doing something.

don't want to think. But I also don't have weights.

You Forgot (23:27)
Speaking.

Yeah, I wasn't

Jojo (23:33)
But I feel like

just body weight, right? I could do a push-up.

You Forgot (23:37)
I'm gonna get some little dumbbells. feel like, yeah.

Jojo (23:39)
You are.

Deborah got me the cute ones that go around your wrist and they look like it. I don't know how to explain it, but they're cute. I could do that. If it's cute, I'll do it.

You Forgot (23:49)
What?

Yeah, I know. I just feel like I need to do like more strength training just for those dumb bones.

Jojo (24:05)
But you do a shit ton of strength training already, like almost daily.

You Forgot (24:09)
I guess it's, yeah, it's just, ⁓ it's like body weight. Well, it's, you know, the weight of the machine too and like the tension from the springs, but I just, there's like another part of me that thinks that there's like, you need to be like just lifting real weights. Maybe that's just my old school brain.

Jojo (24:30)
Well, part of being on a GLP-1 is obviously you can't eat very much and everyone is noticing, I mean, like all of our friends are on GLP-1s, it seems like everyone's noticing muscle loss because you just can't eat as much and you're definitely not eating as much protein. So I feel it, I feel it in my arms. They just feel like flabby, like I need to start doing something.

You Forgot (24:55)
Yeah, I was speaking of arms. saw that Jennifer Aniston does that Peval thing. Have you seen that system?

Jojo (25:02)
No!

You Forgot (25:04)
She just, it's like, you could buy everything for like at home and it's like bands and like the little slidey things on the ground. it's kind of like a Pilates looking system.

Jojo (25:15)
I know, I have no excuse. I've got the time in the evenings to do stuff like this.

You Forgot (25:21)
When? I mean...

Jojo (25:22)
Like, I

mean, really, I shut things down around 5.30 after dinner. From 5.30 to 8.30, I'm doing nothing.

You Forgot (25:30)
I would get like a little set of dumbbells or something and then use ⁓ an app or YouTube. Marge used to do YouTube videos all the time and I have Fit On, it's called like F-I-T-O-N and you can go in there and be like Arm Day apps and it's all free and I love, yeah and it's like, it's.

Jojo (25:52)
Wait, really?

You Forgot (25:56)
I used to use it for years and I mean, I just stopped when I like started going to LaGree or whatever, but like that was the one that do like Matt Pilates at home. And ⁓ I put in an ad one the other day because I didn't have LaGree and I, but this is exactly why I have to like pay and go into a studio because like halfway in I was like, ⁓ I stopped doing it. ⁓

Jojo (26:16)
yeah, I'll quit

so fast. I'll quit even if I'm paying, because I don't like to be told what to do. So if they're like, increase your weight, I'm like, well, now I'm not going to do anything because you just bust me. That's how that works.

You Forgot (26:29)
I can't believe I'm not like that at this place because they don't yell at you. But when I went to LaGree in Boulder, I was very turned off by the bossiness of these people. It was a different kind of instruction.

Jojo (26:45)
I can't believe this. I used to do Orange Theory fitness before I went to teach all day long. But then when they would be like, okay, to make it more challenging, do this. I was like, why would I ever want to make it more challenging?

You Forgot (26:52)
⁓

I stopped doing when she starts talking about like a modification like and I'm like halfway in the class like nope Nope, I'm just I'm staying right here where I am. I'm just gonna I'm like I've already like Busted my ass for a half hour. I'm not gonna do that,

Jojo (27:08)
Nope, not doing that!

Show me the easiest way to do it.

This is how bad it was. When they would make us do sit-ups, there was like an incline cushion thing, probably for something else. I just put it behind me so that I was already halfway inclined because I didn't want to do a full sit-up. It was fine for me.

You Forgot (27:34)
We are modifying, yet it injured me.

He had an injury.

Jojo (27:41)
I'm just lazy. Then I was like, why am I working out? I hate working out.

You Forgot (27:46)
⁓ My this literally.

I don't want to be a lame grandma. And I know that sounds so crazy. I don't know if my children even plan on having kids. just, I did not have, my kids didn't have a participating grandparent, really. I mean, the dads were both great, but they were old. My dad was so much older and he did what he could and he was super cute with them.

Jojo (27:55)
I know.

You Forgot (28:16)
Like I watched like, and my kids watched this too. They watched Stephanie's kids have like grandparents that took them places and took them fishing and camping and hunting and just all the things showed up at every sporting event, the kids games, the vacation together. Like, I don't know. I would just, I want to do that. So I want to be.

Jojo (28:40)
Yeah.

You Forgot (28:47)
able.

Jojo (28:48)
You want to be around, you mean? My kids were lucky enough to have really good grandparents. Gawna showed up to literally everything. I feel like my grandma's strength, if I ever become a grandma, which is really slim chances, is I'm gonna be really good at planning trips and taking them on cruises. That'll be my love language. They're gonna go on so many cruises, they're gonna be like my kids, where they're gonna be like, I don't want to go on another cruise.

You Forgot (29:15)
Take them if you got them. That would be super cute. God, I love we just trail on. What about, okay, I have a save it for the pod, which is a mind fuck combo.

Jojo (29:26)
haha

Bring it.

You Forgot (29:38)
This is, it's borderline insane. It's not mindfucky, it's borderline insane. This was in Missouri. ⁓ I think it was like last week.

A dad walks his six-year-old back on a bus, school bus. There's a video. It looks like there's still about eight, 10 kids, kind of blurry. Apparently his daughter had been getting bullied. He had reached out to the school. Nothing was done. So dad takes it into his own hands.

Jojo (30:01)
Okay.

He stepped on the bus.

You Forgot (30:18)
Yeah, where was the monitor? Where was the bus driver?

Jojo (30:22)
That's a big no-no. I don't let parents put one foot on the bus.

You Forgot (30:23)
They're little,

they're little, right? His daughter and the girl he wanted to confront, they were six and seven, which I forget which way. He says, are you the one that's hurting my daughter? Are you the one that's hurting my daughter? And she's just sitting there, fucking six year old. And he says to his own daughter, he goes, what'd tell you to do? And she seems apprehensive, but she like hits the other little girl.

And he's like, do it again, do it again, do it again. And other children are just sitting in their chairs, like, unbelieving, you know, this is happening. And then he was just like, okay, let's go.

Jojo (30:57)
What a psycho!

You Forgot (31:14)
and he's getting charged with like, you know, battery or whatever. There's charges, but can you believe that?

Jojo (31:18)
Good. Good.

Where was the driver? How are their kids on the bus? Without an adult. That literally makes me so mad. Can you imagine if you were that little girl's mom and you saw that video?

You Forgot (31:25)
I don't I don't know.

I don't know why I'm gonna have to like, I'll send you the link and we're gonna have to follow this story because talk about bat shit crazy. He's telling his little girl to punch the other little girl. I mean, and it didn't seem like she wanted to do that.

Jojo (31:53)
No, that's not a normal thing that kids want to do.

You Forgot (31:56)
No, she wasn't acting like Rocky. They look like they were in little dresses too. The video is pretty blurry. I knew... Beyond. First of all, because of the dad, the big giant guy walking in there going... And he's yelling at the kid, like, you the one messing with my daughter? Are you the one? And he's like, what are you going to do about it? Do what you're going to do to her.

Jojo (32:06)
That's traumatic.

He's yelling at a little girl.

You Forgot (32:24)
And he said, are you the one that's, yeah, and he's like, you ever gonna touch my kid again? Disgusting. But he said that the, you know, the school didn't do anything, but I mean, he surely did not handle it in the best way.

Jojo (32:25)
getting his rocks off probably.

And maybe your little girl is being kind of a dick on the bus. Have you thought about that?

You Forgot (32:43)
⁓ I don't know about that. She is such a lovely role model.

Jojo (32:48)
We had a safety meeting the other day that we had to go to, by the way, got paid $15 to go to that. And they said something similar. They were like, never let a parent on the bus. And we're all like, obviously. But this happened. A mom got on the bus, little kid was.

bullying her son instead of like hitting him, she got down like right in his face and was like, Hey, can we talk about why you're being so mean to my son? And then put her hands in his hair, like to caress it and be like, can you please just be sweet? That's almost just as bad.

You Forgot (33:25)
She was probably digging her nails in there. She wasn't being sweet. She had her nails in that good stuff.

Jojo (33:27)
Yeah, put her hands, her fingers

in his hair. Absolutely not.

You Forgot (33:33)
I would freak.

Jojo (33:36)
I

You Forgot (33:38)
my gosh, parents are insane. ⁓

Jojo (33:41)
Parents are insane. I did have a mom try to get on the bus when I was new to this route. Maybe she thought she could pull a fast one on me, get on the bus and strap her own kid in. And as soon as she put that first foot on the step, I put my hand in this international stop sign position. I was like, no ma'am, do not step foot on this bus. And she was like, taking a bag.

You Forgot (33:49)
Hahaha

liability stuff too.

Jojo (34:05)
It's liability

and I'm like really protective of these kiddos and I don't know what you're going to do. So back off.

You Forgot (34:11)
⁓ One last comment on this, Dad. He said, I want her crying.

Jojo (34:19)
He needs to be locked up for good. I want to make him cry.

You Forgot (34:21)
ominous shit

Can you imagine when he's in jail? What would you do to get in here? I took my six-year-old on a bus to punch another little girl.

Jojo (34:35)
And I said I want her to cry.

You Forgot (34:37)
That's That's so fucking psychotic. Ayayaya! Any updates? ⁓

Jojo (34:40)
So sick.

You Forgot (34:51)
Any favorite things before we go?

Jojo (34:54)
I will say I'm in my history era right now. I'm really into history. I think I told you I listened to ⁓ Sharon's book, Sharon McMahon's book about small, mighty women that have helped blah, blah, Anyways, I'm now reading Anderson Cooper's book about the Vanderbelts because his great-great-great-grandfather was the original Vanderbelt.

I don't know anything about the Vanderbilts and I feel like I should. Like, why were they so rich? Why'd they have that huge house in Rhode Island? So I'm learning so much. So that's probably my new favorite thing this week. He wrote it with a historian, so he didn't write it completely by himself, but it's called Vanderbilt and I'm not finished with it, but it's fascinating. Like, I didn't even know why they had so much money, but apparently he was in like oil and then he was into like railroads.

You Forgot (35:47)
Yeah, like the Gilded Age stuff, right?

Jojo (35:49)
They Gilded Age stuff. And Anderson

says when people are like, ⁓ you're a Vanderbilt, he was like, no, I'm a Cooper. My dad was from like Mississippi. I'm a Cooper. And I love that.

You Forgot (36:02)
Yeah, but you know, his mom isn't too shabby in the Vander, you know, like she's, she had her own name too. Yeah. ⁓ do you watch the Gilded Age?

Jojo (36:05)
Gloria, doing okay. Yeah.

No, and I know I would love it. I don't know. I'm being stubborn about it. It's like when people tell me, you will love it and everyone else loves it, then I'm like, well, then I'm not watching. Like what? It's psycho. I know I will love it.

You Forgot (36:15)
I love it so much. Why?

Yeah, no, it's I love it so much. Another one along those lines. It's not the Gilded Age.

it's 1860s Ireland, but the House of Guinness. I think it's so good. And I'm not sure, like, I've been reading some reviews about it people are like, the accents suck, the music sucks. ⁓ It's not like historically correct in all aspects. No, people, it's a TV show and they take license, I think. And it's, I love it. There's like the Patriarch of the Guinness.

Guinness Guinness, the beer, passes away and then there's four kids that have to figure out how they're gonna run the company. The one younger guy, he's all in, that's all he wants. But the dad left, said the other kid, the oldest son has to do it and he wants nothing to do with it and he has his own life that nobody knows about. He's kind of on the DL with everything.

and he doesn't live in town and they're like, nope, you gotta live here and make the best of it. So he, and then they're like, you guys need to get married too. You have to be married. And the one guy's like, no. But the women characters on this show are so, like, I love them. They're not written as like, well, I kind of have to take that back because the sister's kind of sickly. You don't even know what's wrong with her.

And I mean, she gets stuff done, but then the other women, one's like leading the charge of like the anti-Guinness people, like she's like a commoner or whatever. she, like that girl's really like strong character. And then the one son interviews for like a wife and this girl walks in and she's like, let's be clear. We both know what this is. Like, where can I get mine?

how do I keep it out of the papers, you get to have your life. Like it's just the women are just badass in it. And there's no

Jojo (38:34)
Well, we started

last night because of you. You've influenced me on like four things. Yes, love it. I'm gonna continue watching it tonight.

You Forgot (38:36)
Did you like him?

I love the guy that's like the henchman, but he's not a bad guy. he was like, was, he worked for the dad that passed and he just got stuff taken care of for him. can't even remember his name. You know what I'm talking about? Like the tall, good looking guy. Yeah, like he's so cool. And there's no like, like murder or anything yet. You know I mean? It's like, it's, I love that. Like, it's not like,

the task.

Jojo (39:15)
Mark Ruffalo and that stomach better be a prosthetic.

You Forgot (39:18)
Listen, I say it to you in real life, but I can say it here. I am so sick of these men trying to get their damn Emmy. Like, I am just like, I'm just sick of it. Mark Ruffalo's acting in this is so weird to me.

Jojo (39:24)
You

I

You Forgot (39:46)
I find him, I've always liked Mark Ruffalo, loved him. It seems so put on and he's like huffing and puffing and those long stares and like, ⁓ it's plugging the shit out of me. I'll probably watch two more tonight with Anthony, I think he likes it.

Jojo (40:02)
Ugh. I don't want to watch it.

Matt loves

it. Men love it. That's the thing.

You Forgot (40:13)
They're not so sick of these men. Like they don't care. I'm just looking, like, I think I'm just sick of like white men in general.

Jojo (40:18)
I

Obviously, obviously.

You Forgot (40:29)
And I don't know, it's just like a little, it's just bugging me. Like McConaughey movie the other night, did you watch that at all? The lost bus or something bus?

Jojo (40:38)
No, but I can't,

he drives me nuts.

You Forgot (40:41)
beyond.

Jojo (40:43)
for

a million different reasons.

You Forgot (40:45)
beyond, I know. But yeah, I stopped watching it. Like, and I usually love, I will watch his movies though. he's been great.

Jojo (40:54)
I can't,

well, okay, I do love the rom-coms. I'll watch those.

You Forgot (41:01)
What's going to happen when he's not like the least bit appealing anymore? Like he's already like, you know what I mean?

Jojo (41:06)
Someone's

gonna have to give him notice, because I think he's always gonna think that.

You Forgot (41:11)
even. He's like 18, but like beautiful.

Jojo (41:12)
Speaking of like hating

white men, I got called into the office the other day at Busburn, which I'll tell you about later. I got in a little bit of trouble, like good trouble. ⁓ The big boss at Busburn is African-American guy. And of course we started chatting, chatting, chatting. And somehow, because I can't stop talking, I told him that I'm white, non-practicing. And he thought that was the funniest thing he's ever heard in his life.

You guys, what do mean by that? I was like, I can't say his name. I was like, you know that a lot of white people are very problematic and I just want to stay upfront. I am non-practicing. Like.

You Forgot (41:56)
No, I think that's a really funny phrase. I can't help it.

Jojo (41:59)
I was like, I've

heard some things, people have said some things to me because they think I'm like quote unquote cool white person and they're also a white person, but I don't put up with any racist bullshit. Don't say anything racist in front of me. I will call you out immediately. I'm not cool with it. I'm not down with it. And he was just cracking up.

You Forgot (42:19)
I cannot believe the balls on some people to say something racist to someone that they don't even know. I got a text from a guy that used to do our yard. ⁓ we literally, I'm like, Anthony fired, like never saw this guy again in our life. He sent me a text about voting for our local elections and

He was just, I think there was like one white guy candidate and the others were, you know, the colors de Benetton and like, ⁓ that's Benetton for all you white people. And he was sending, he sent me an unsolicited text about who I should go vote for. I've never talked to this person in my entire life.

Jojo (43:15)
Absolutely not.

You Forgot (43:17)
I'm like, you think I'm that part, like, no.

Jojo (43:21)
Yeah, and how offensive that you think I'm gonna be okay with that. I know that I look like a Karen, but I'm not a Karen. By the way, I shouldn't even say Karen. I hate that, because one of my really good friends is Karen. Sorry, Karen Stanton, I know you listen.

You Forgot (43:29)
You don't represent!

What, like Susan gets a bad rap too. Like my cousin, used to be like, she'd be making it just be like, okay, Susan, like online she would like type that, like make memes and stuff. And I'm like, stop using Susan.

Jojo (43:49)
I know,

we should stop, we need to stop saying, I'm telling myself this, Karen, Susan, really just any name.

You Forgot (43:57)
Yeah, unless they deserve it.

Jojo (43:59)
You

You Forgot (44:02)
I'm still waiting for the day where I get caught being like a real Karen. Like when you're like, when you know, like you think you're right about something. It's like, no.

Jojo (44:10)
I mean, I got called into the office because I was being a Karen about, but it was like a safety issue for a child. And I was like, I will burn this place to the ground. ⁓ So Karen away. That's a good trouble. Good Karen. All

You Forgot (44:20)
yeah, Karen away. Karen on.

Yeah.

I don't know. I gotta go to the grocery store.

Jojo (44:32)
All right.

I'm gonna go get pizza with the birthday boy.

You Forgot (44:42)
What are you gonna do with the rest of it after you have like one bite on your GPL or LPL?

Jojo (44:46)
my

god, we got a ⁓ soft pretzel on Sunday when we got here. We still have it. We're just taking a bite here and there.

You Forgot (44:54)
Guess

what? It's not soft anymore.

Jojo (44:57)
It ain't soft.

You Forgot (44:59)
That's a crispy, dry, pretzel by now.

Jojo (45:03)
And the little teeny tiny cup of beer cheese. We still have that too.

You Forgot (45:07)
Hmm you can probably let that go You get a book Blah Okay, talk to you later. Have fun in Red River Happy birthday to Matt

Jojo (45:10)
Yeah, probably. All right, well have fun grocery shopping.

Bye!

May or met?

You Forgot (45:24)
K'ba-ba.